ᐅ Planning a Home Theater System – Control Options and Various Questions
Created on: 6 Nov 2015 11:44
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Weitling09
We are currently at the shell construction stage and are planning the electrical installation. So far, we have used very basic equipment for listening to music (AIWA micro system, TV sound directly from the TV), but we want to plan for more "proper" equipment in the house.
What I have in mind:
> In the living room, I would like a surround sound system that allows me to listen to both music and TV audio.
> At the same time, I want to transmit sound from this system to the dining area, where stereo sound is sufficient (just for background music).
> Ideally, I would also like to be able to set up speakers on the terrace for garden parties, which can also be connected to the same system.
My questions:
1. I have already seen that there are multi-room control systems – would that be suitable here, or are there better options?
2. What should I pay attention to when purchasing a receiver / speakers?
3. Which connectors should I plan for (receiver -> wall [connector] -> [speaker cable] -> wall [connector] -> speakers)?
4. Is there any downside to the idea of also connecting the dining area speakers via wall connectors, and for garden parties, using those connectors to connect the outdoor speakers?
5. Attached is a draft of the plan on the floor plan – what could be improved? Any advice or tips are welcome!
What I have in mind:
> In the living room, I would like a surround sound system that allows me to listen to both music and TV audio.
> At the same time, I want to transmit sound from this system to the dining area, where stereo sound is sufficient (just for background music).
> Ideally, I would also like to be able to set up speakers on the terrace for garden parties, which can also be connected to the same system.
My questions:
1. I have already seen that there are multi-room control systems – would that be suitable here, or are there better options?
2. What should I pay attention to when purchasing a receiver / speakers?
3. Which connectors should I plan for (receiver -> wall [connector] -> [speaker cable] -> wall [connector] -> speakers)?
4. Is there any downside to the idea of also connecting the dining area speakers via wall connectors, and for garden parties, using those connectors to connect the outdoor speakers?
5. Attached is a draft of the plan on the floor plan – what could be improved? Any advice or tips are welcome!
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nordanney6 Nov 2015 17:36Weitling09 schrieb:
How can I tell if the receiver supports this? For example, the YAMAHA RX-V77, the website only says "Output via Zone B provides 2-channel sound in a second room; Zone B output means the user can also listen to 2-channel audio in a second room while the main zone is playing 5-channel audio (same source in both zones)." The receiver’s description usually indicates if it’s a 7-channel or "only" a 5-channel receiver (which Yamaha model exactly do you mean?). Based on your quote from the manufacturer, it is a 7-channel receiver.
Weitling09 schrieb:
..and then I can use Front R+L for Zone 2? I don’t quite understand the question! You have five channels in the living room, meaning 5 receiver outputs to speakers. How you connect the speakers—whether with connectors or by running cable directly—is not important. Of course, you can simply lay the speaker cable on the floor if it doesn’t bother you or isn’t visible.
Then you need to run two more cables for the second zone in the dining area. Here, too, you can use connectors or just run a longer cable.
Weitling09 schrieb:
Thanks for the picture. What are these types of outlets called? Good question, it’s from the Gira switch range. It’s a recessed outlet pointing downwards; for example, you could also install LAN sockets there. Unfortunately, I don’t have the exact article number from the electrician.
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Weitling096 Nov 2015 19:49nordanney schrieb:
The description of the receivers states whether it is a 7-channel or "just" a 5-channel receiver (which Yamaha model exactly are you referring to?). According to your manufacturer quote, it is a 7-channel receiver. For example, YAMAHA RX-V771 ("Powerful 7-channel surround sound with 160 W/channel (4 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.9% THD)") – Does 7 channels automatically mean I can operate 5.1 + 2.0 without a second amplifier?
nordanney schrieb:
I don’t understand the question! You have five channels in the living room, meaning 5 receiver outputs to speakers. How you connect the speakers, whether with connectors or by running the cables directly as I do, doesn’t matter. Of course, you can also just lay the speaker cable on the floor if you don’t mind or if it won’t be seen.
Then you need to run two more cables for the second zone in the dining area. Here as well, you can use connectors or simply run a long cable. According to the picture, the LYNDAHL LKL005 has 2x6 terminals so I can connect 5.1 speakers.
I had the following idea:
Receiver
-> Connect subwoofer & front right + left & center directly with speaker cable
-> Rear right + left: from receiver > LYNDAHL > flush-mounted conduit > outlet > speaker
-> Zone B: same setup as rear right + left
There are 4 inputs left unused.
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nordanney6 Nov 2015 20:20Weitling09 schrieb:
For example, YAMAHA RX-V771 ("Powerful 7-channel surround sound with 160 W per channel (4 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.9% THD)" – does 7 channels automatically mean I can operate 5.1 + 2.0 without a second amplifier? Yes, as long as the receiver supports a second zone.
Weitling09 schrieb:
According to the picture, the LYNDAHL LKL005 has 2x6 connections so I can connect 5.1 speakers.
I had the following idea:
Receiver
-> Connect subwoofer, front right + left, and center directly by speaker cables
-> Rear right + left: from receiver > LYNDAHL > in-wall conduit > outlet > speakers
-> Zone B: same as rear right + left Yes, that can work.
nordanney schrieb:
This is what "inexpensive" boxes look like if you don’t want to use connectors.
And these also require less depth than boxes with sockets for banana plugs. Personally, for speakers, I have always chosen the clamp version without plugs or sockets. Just cut the cables to the right length and they can be connected quickly and easily.
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Sebastian798 Nov 2015 16:03Farewell, hi-fi enjoyment – Clamping options? Best with 0.5mm (0.02 inch) cable
I believe the electrical resistance is, if anything, lower without the connector, because in the plug and socket the cables are only clamped, meaning there is one extra connection overall!
Funny that you know my cable thickness. Just because I have something different doesn’t mean you need to take it as a personal attack. I’m not sending 100W at low voltage through cables that are too thin.
But there are people who even claim to hear an improvement with gold-plated digital cables(!).
Funny that you know my cable thickness. Just because I have something different doesn’t mean you need to take it as a personal attack. I’m not sending 100W at low voltage through cables that are too thin.
But there are people who even claim to hear an improvement with gold-plated digital cables(!).