ᐅ Bay window extending into setback areas – is this allowed in this case?
Created on: 27 Oct 2015 22:05
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Aloadihoa
Hello,
Since the budget for the basement is probably insufficient, I am currently trying to adjust the floor plan accordingly. My question is whether this is permissible:
It concerns the bay window, which I have moved closer to the street and the neighboring property.
Does the design comply with the state building code for Baden-Württemberg?
Additionally, the development plan specifies the following:
The buildable areas defined by front and rear building limits may exceptionally be exceeded by up to 1.5m (4 feet 11 inches) towards the street and garden side.
However, this applies only to secondary structural elements such as balconies, stairwells, bay windows, conservatories, etc.
The total width of protruding building parts must not exceed one-third of the building’s width.
The building has a width of 11.5m (37 feet 8 inches). Therefore, it seems permissible that the bay window projects 1.5m (4 feet 11 inches) towards the street with a width of 3.5m (11 feet 6 inches).
What do you think about the bay window? Legal or illegal?
I am also happy to receive opinions on the ground floor layout.
Since the budget for the basement is probably insufficient, I am currently trying to adjust the floor plan accordingly. My question is whether this is permissible:
It concerns the bay window, which I have moved closer to the street and the neighboring property.
Does the design comply with the state building code for Baden-Württemberg?
- House wall with a 2.5m (8 feet 2 inches) distance from the property boundary
- Bay window is 2.0m (6 feet 7 inches) from the property boundary and 5m (16 feet 5 inches) wide, extending only 0.5m (1 foot 8 inches) outward (see state building code §5 (6))
Additionally, the development plan specifies the following:
The buildable areas defined by front and rear building limits may exceptionally be exceeded by up to 1.5m (4 feet 11 inches) towards the street and garden side.
However, this applies only to secondary structural elements such as balconies, stairwells, bay windows, conservatories, etc.
The total width of protruding building parts must not exceed one-third of the building’s width.
The building has a width of 11.5m (37 feet 8 inches). Therefore, it seems permissible that the bay window projects 1.5m (4 feet 11 inches) towards the street with a width of 3.5m (11 feet 6 inches).
What do you think about the bay window? Legal or illegal?
I am also happy to receive opinions on the ground floor layout.
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Aloadihoa28 Oct 2015 11:35What does the specification regarding the garage have to do with the bay window? I thought A4.3 was applicable.
When enlarging the house, I realize that the floor area ratio of 0.4 must not be exceeded. Are walkways and the front garden counted in this? Or only the house, garage, and parking space?
When enlarging the house, I realize that the floor area ratio of 0.4 must not be exceeded. Are walkways and the front garden counted in this? Or only the house, garage, and parking space?
All questions for your architect.
Regarding A4.3: if applicable, clarify whether exceeding the building boundary without registering an encumbrance is allowed. For me, this is not entirely clear or definitive. I would also ask this question first to a local architect – raising it with the building authority might unnecessarily cause problems.
Best regards
Dirk Grafe
Regarding A4.3: if applicable, clarify whether exceeding the building boundary without registering an encumbrance is allowed. For me, this is not entirely clear or definitive. I would also ask this question first to a local architect – raising it with the building authority might unnecessarily cause problems.
Best regards
Dirk Grafe
I took a look at your plot from an old thread. I don’t think the building design suits the site very well. If the zoning regulations or building permit / planning permission are too restrictive and you can’t get away from the “square with a bay window” layout, it might be time to consult a professional.
And yes: I believe a utility room is less suited for the south side of the house than a living area. Wasn’t there a different floor plan discussed over the weekend with a similar southern exposure? That one was very well thought out, naturally without a straight staircase. I’m also not in favor of sticking with a dream feature in the house when it’s clear that it won’t showcase itself the way you once envisioned. So take a look at related threads to see how others have made positive progress by considering alternative options.
And yes: I believe a utility room is less suited for the south side of the house than a living area. Wasn’t there a different floor plan discussed over the weekend with a similar southern exposure? That one was very well thought out, naturally without a straight staircase. I’m also not in favor of sticking with a dream feature in the house when it’s clear that it won’t showcase itself the way you once envisioned. So take a look at related threads to see how others have made positive progress by considering alternative options.
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Aloadihoa28 Oct 2015 13:34I have actually seen a straight staircase quite similar before. You enter the house and look from the side at a full-height glass wall and a folded concrete staircase. Why do you think it wouldn’t work? Is the viewing angle unfavorable? Not enough natural light?
Mirroring the house was an attempt. The positive aspect was that the kitchen window could be larger, and also the garage wouldn’t have to be placed so far back on the property because of the window.
The idea of a bay window for the utility room came from my architect, but with a version that would push the house further into the garden. I have been looking for a way to avoid this. But if that’s not possible and the house has to be moved back anyway, maybe it would be better to widen the bay window across the entire ground floor and reduce the upper floor by one meter (3 feet) on top.
Ah, no idea...
@Yvonne
Which floor plan do you mean? Unfortunately, the ones from Watcher78 and Lionelle don’t have a study on the ground floor.
Mirroring the house was an attempt. The positive aspect was that the kitchen window could be larger, and also the garage wouldn’t have to be placed so far back on the property because of the window.
The idea of a bay window for the utility room came from my architect, but with a version that would push the house further into the garden. I have been looking for a way to avoid this. But if that’s not possible and the house has to be moved back anyway, maybe it would be better to widen the bay window across the entire ground floor and reduce the upper floor by one meter (3 feet) on top.
Ah, no idea...
@Yvonne
Which floor plan do you mean? Unfortunately, the ones from Watcher78 and Lionelle don’t have a study on the ground floor.
Aloadihoa schrieb:
Which floor plan do you mean? Unfortunately, the ones from Watcher78 and Lionelle don’t have a home office on the ground floor.Yes, I think it was watcher78 (from memory). It was a sloped site.
I can at least see the general layout in your house as well: kitchen at the back right, then with access from the dining area and kitchen to the garden and terrace, living room at the front, and the south-facing windows capturing sunlight on the side.
Unfortunately, I have little time at the moment, so I can’t even sketch anything out to see if a home office would work for you.
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Aloadihoa28 Oct 2015 20:39It’s a pity, the breakthrough idea is currently missing. We’ve been in a bit of a creative slump since the basement option was dropped. The architect is only drawing proposals based on suggestions we make. Thanks anyway for the honest assessment.
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