ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 m² bungalow

Created on: 2 Oct 2015 11:16
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DragonyxXL
Dear everyone,

I would appreciate it if you could share your thoughts on our floor plan. We aim to finalize the floor plan (at least the key aspects, such as the exterior walls) within the next 2-3 weeks. The dotted line indicates the 70cm (28 inches) roof overhang.

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1350m² (14,521 ft²)
Site coverage ratio: 0.25
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building zone of 15m (49 feet) with a 5m (16 feet) setback from the street
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof type: Gable roof
House orientation: SE (sketches are oriented to north)
Maximum height / limits: Eaves height 4.5m (15 feet)

Homeowner Requirements
Storeys: 1
Number of occupants: 2 adults (28-30 years) + 2-3 children (planned)
Space requirement: 160m² (1,722 ft²) living area
Office: for family use
Annual number of overnight guests: 15-25
Open kitchen, possibly with an island
Number of dining seats: 5-8
Fireplace: yes
Double garage with gable roof
Possible utility garden / greenhouse
Other wishes / special features / daily routine: We both work full-time

House Design
Planner: Architect candidate
What we especially like: Room orientation considering the plot and our personal wishes, with dressing room / utility room / bathrooms facing NW and living areas facing SW/SE; space for large family gatherings in living room/kitchen; the living/dining area as the social hub but still allowing for retreat.
What we don’t like: The openness between living room and hallway, or alternatively the tightness if a wall/door is installed there.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 240,000€ (excluding garage)
Preferred heating system: Geothermal heat pump with deep drilling, cozy fireplace

If you had to give up something, which details / additions would you forgo?
- Could give up: KfW 55 standard, temporary waiver of fireplace, very wide roof overhang
- Cannot give up: KfW 70 standard, living area

Grundriss eines Hauses mit Wohnen/Essen, Schlafen, Kinderzimmer, Arbeiten, Bad, Flur; 158,89 m²


Lageplan eines Wohnviertels mit Straßen, Häusern, Wegen und Bäumen.
Musketier2 Oct 2015 15:03
DragonyxXL schrieb:

The "playing" area is not a designated playground. Together with the open connection to the living area, the hallway is supposed to have an additional function (for example, playing). Whether this main traffic route can actually be used for that purpose is a good question.

I would try to avoid it. Anyone with children knows how painful it is to step barefoot on toys.
DragonyxXL schrieb:

I don't really see cabinets in front of doors as a problem. It really depends on the design and effect. It creates passages that save space. But do you want to walk through a "kind of" closet? I can imagine that.

I could see that working in a dressing room if necessary. In a kids’ hallway, I would find it cramped.
DragonyxXL schrieb:

In the large bathroom, the shower is behind the glass wall. In the kids’ bathroom, it’s somewhere on the kids’ room side. Both bathroom layouts can certainly be adapted.

I find the combination of toilet in front of the shower a bit unusual, as it restricts access quite a bit.
By the way, the bathroom window might also be hard to open unless you have very long arms.
DragonyxXL schrieb:

The only missing door is the one to the living room, or am I mistaken? The way the doors from the master bathroom and bedroom open seems rather unproblematic to me.

I especially see the bedroom door as problematic, since someone always has to go around the door when entering. With a standard door, it might even touch the bed as things stand now.
DragonyxXL schrieb:

The separation is the fireplace. Currently planned as a through-fireplace. We have our first meeting with the fireplace builder next week. Nightstands are overrated.

I think the idea is not bad in itself, because at the same time some of the heat can be directed into the hallway.
The question is whether it won’t get too hot in the passage, since you’ll have to walk quite close by the fireplace. We do not have a fireplace, so others would have to share their experience here.
DragonyxXL schrieb:

Would you happen to have a link to such a more sensible solution? Or could you briefly describe what you mean by "more sensible"? Or conversely, what you find not sensible about our layout, now that I have also provided some possible solutions for many aspects?

I find the floor plan very compartmentalized and not yet fully thought through.
A bungalow always tends to have quite a bit of hallway space necessary to access everything, which is logical.
But you have two doors in the hallway alone, creating three separated hallways. I would bet those two doors are almost never closed if you have children. With three interior doors in the entrance area, I don’t think that space functions well as an entrance hall. So you might as well leave those doors out.
That makes everything very busy, cramped, and impractical, although you should have plenty of space with 160m² (1,722 sq ft).
Furthermore, it's a bit difficult to evaluate the floor plan when you can’t trust the dimensions (see door sizes, kitchen dimensions) and when things aren’t drawn in (doors, living room furniture, bathroom fixtures).
For example, the table in the living room looks quite narrow to me.
DragonyxXL schrieb:

There really isn’t a reason not to. In the next revision, we will probably rework that. It seems there is room for it everywhere.

Especially the route to the dressing room and the kids’ rooms, which you walk regularly carrying a laundry basket, makes it sensible to use standard doors.
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DragonyxXL
2 Oct 2015 15:34
Musketier schrieb:
I can imagine that in the walk-in closet if necessary. In the children's hallway, I would find it cramped.
In the end, you don’t really gain that much extra storage space above the door. Point taken.
Musketier schrieb:
The combination of the toilet in front of the shower seems a bit unusual to me, as it really restricts access.
By the way, the bathroom window will probably be difficult to open unless you have very long arms.
I didn’t find the toilet placement very appealing either. Maybe it would be better placed next to the bathtub on a service wall? By the way, we shower significantly more often than we use the bathtub. The point about window opening is a good one as well. Although it's somewhat offset by the controlled mechanical ventilation system, the window will definitely still be opened occasionally.
Musketier schrieb:
I especially see the bedroom as problematic because someone entering always has to get around the door. With a standard door, it might even touch the bed.
Yes, that’s too tight (see the bedside table issue).
Musketier schrieb:
With three interior doors in the entrance area, I don’t think it really qualifies as an entrance vestibule anymore. So you might as well leave out the doors.
I have a hard time arguing against that. Especially since the entire hallway area would then feel more spacious. What are your experiences regarding entrance vestibules? Are they useful or redundant in a KfW70 house?
Musketier schrieb:
The table in the living room also looks quite narrow to me, for example.
I think that one is about 80cm (31.5 inches) wide. It’s probably going to be a 90cm (35.5 inches) table instead. There’s enough space in that spot anyway. Still, I’ve attached the measurements.

Floor plan of a single-family house with living, kitchen, and sleeping areas, 158.89 m².
Kisska862 Oct 2015 16:37
I have to say, I really like the basic idea and the placement on the plot. However, it still needs some refinement! There are too many corners at the moment!
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Manu1976
2 Oct 2015 17:08
I generally like the basic layout. However, there are several points that I’m not so happy with:
- Where will the potential third child go? Into the small home office? If you’re considering having a third child, you should plan that room properly from the start, otherwise you might end up like us and have to build again.
- The hallway area is definitely too small (stroller, baby carrier, lots of children’s shoes, bags, jackets).
- I would also miss having a guest toilet. As the floor plan is now, everyone will have to use the master bathroom, and I didn’t want that.
- The access to the walk-in closet is inconvenient. I would move the bedroom to the back and place the walk-in closet in the front area. This way, you gain space for bedside tables and don’t have to walk through the bedroom all the time.
- I think it would also look nicer if you omitted the recessed wall at the entrance. Instead, extend the wall 1.12 meters (3 feet 8 inches) forward to align with the bathroom and bedroom wall height. This way, you still have a nice covered entrance, but it feels calmer and the entrance area and utility room would be larger.
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ypg
2 Oct 2015 21:23
I also have some additional thoughts – although I believe that no further changes are planned or intended?! See:
DragonyxXL schrieb:
Views, 3D models, scale models made from cardboard/Styrofoam, etc. have been/will be created as needed.
DragonyxXL schrieb:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 1350m² (14,521 sq ft)
Floor area ratio: 0.25
Floor space index: 0.4
Building envelope of 15m (49 feet) with 5m (16 feet) distance from the street
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
DragonyxXL schrieb:
Client requirements
Floors: 1

That won’t work for your intended bungalow: according to the development plan, two full floors are required.
DragonyxXL schrieb:
We are currently working on the living room design, but one can imagine a seating area by the fireplace. The TV/projection screen will probably be above the fireplace window or in the corner.

Honestly, I can’t picture that: on the one hand, the fireplace limits the entrance to the living room (something is in the way); on the other hand, what’s the point of a nice fireplace if you cover it with a TV? A tunnel fireplace needs to stand out on its own. If it’s freestanding in the room, it requires a clear backdrop. Or, if it’s against a wall, then nothing should be placed directly to the left, right, or above it. There are exceptions, but a TV is not one of them.
DragonyxXL schrieb:
Nightstands are overrated. Just kidding,
that’s my saying! But you need them if you don’t have them. From experience.
The bed seems to be intentionally placed in front of the window. That might seem more romantic than it is. You could rotate the bed 90 degrees…
I would also consider changing the room layout: another option would be to swap the walk-in closet and bathroom. When you have children, one person might still want to sleep while the other has to get up, so you don’t want to be constantly woken up walking through the corridor to the walk-in closet.
kbt09 schrieb:
Doorways are all only 76 cm (30 inches)

…I find that strange as well. For us, only the guest toilet is that narrow, due to space constraints…
Manu1976 schrieb:
- The hallway area is definitely too small (stroller, infant carrier, countless children’s shoes, bags, coats)

The most important sentence! You have to keep telling childless couples: everything changes. The meticulously designed place needs an extra room to be child-friendly.

In summary: the children’s hallway is also too narrow to serve as a cloakroom. The closet there and in the other hallway in front of the bedroom could easily be 65cm (26 inches) deep. After all, these closets are also used as basement replacements.
Still not fully thought through – I like the ideas. Also the separate hallway stubs that partially extend into the living area…
A vestibule is overrated, but with more than two people, the cold drafts from opening the front door can eventually get annoying.

I would reconsider the wall layout after the number of floors has been clarified.
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merlin83
2 Oct 2015 22:59
I was just on the website of a prefabricated house provider whose name starts with the letters B and Z. There, I found a nicely designed southeast-facing floor plan on display, in my opinion.